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Hi Everyone, The attached file reflects comments resolution from Sunday night. The only change from my prior text is that the following was deleted from Clause 1: "These P&P outline the orderly transaction of business of this committee. For the development of standards, openness and due process must apply, which means that any individual with a direct and material interest meeting the requirements of these P&P has a right to participate by: a) expressing a position and its basis, b) having that position considered, and c) appealing if adversely affected. Due process allows for equity and fair play. In addition to openness, due process requires balance, i.e., the standards development process should have a balance of interests and shall not be dominated by any single interest category." I believe concensus existed for all the other changes proposed in this revision. Please let me know if any of you have objections as soon as possible so that I may conduct further resolution. Thanks to all, Mat Matthew Sherman, Ph.D. Senior Member Technical Staff BAE SYSTEMS, CNIR Office: +1 973.633.6344 email: matthew.sherman@baesystems.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-stds-802-sec@listserv.ieee.org [mailto:owner-stds-802-sec@listserv.ieee.org] On Behalf Of Sherman, Matthew J. (US SSA) Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2004 11:08 PM To: STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org Subject: Re: [802SEC] +++ LMSC P&P Revision Ballot +++ compliance withIEEE-SA and IEEE CS Governance Dear EC members, There is only ONE DAY left to get in you votes on this ballot. Below you will find current status on the ballot. The ballot closes at October 11, 2004 11:59 PM EDT. Please try to get your votes in today! Note that I have voted "approve" with comments. I have additional recommended changes that I feel are required to be in full conformance with IEEE-SA / IEEE CS governance. I have attached a powerpoint file that summarizes my efforts, and a marked up draft of our current P&P that includes the changes I am proposing at this time. Thanks & Regards, Mat Voters DNV DIS DNV APP ABS Comments Provided? --------------------------------------------------------- 00 Paul Nikolich APP No 01 Mat Sherman APP Yes 02 Howard Frazier DNV 03 Buzz Rigsbee DNV 04 Bob O'Hara DNV 05 John Hawkins 06 Tony Jeffree APP No 07 Bob Grow DNV 08 Stuart Kerry DNV 09 Bob Heile DNV 10 Roger Marks DNV 11 Mike Takefman DNV 12 Carl Stevenson APP No 13 Steve Shellhammer DNV 14 Jerry Upton DNV 15 Ajay Rajkumar DNV ---+++---+++---+++---+++---+++---+++---+++---+++---+++--- TOTALS DIS DNV APP ABS total: -00- -11- -04- -00- PreBallot Comments (I believe these were accommodated in the balloted wording of the text): ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---------------------------------------- Stevenson, Carl R (Carl) [carlstevenson@AGERE.COM] Tue 7/20/2004 1:28 PM Geoff's comments are good, and I would echo them. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---------------------------------------- Geoff Thompson [gthompso@nortelnetworks.com] Mon 7/19/2004 1:11 AM I feel that the text that opens things up completely could be used against us. Therefore, please consider the following change (If I had a vote it would be DISAPPROVE to get this change in.) From: "These Operating Procedures outline the orderly transaction of business of this committee. For the development of standards, openness and due process must apply, which means that any individual with a direct and material interest has a right to participate by: a) expressing a position and its basis, b) having that position considered, and c) appealing if adversely affected. Due process allows for equity and fair play. In addition to openness, due process requires balance, i.e., the standards development process should have a balance of interests and shall not be dominated by any single interest category." To: "These Operating Procedures outline the orderly transaction of business of this committee. For the development of standards, openness and due process must apply, which means that any individual with a direct and material interest, who meets the participation requirements has a right to participate by: a) expressing a position and its basis, b) having that position considered, and c) appealing if adversely affected. Due process allows for equity and fair play. In addition to openness, due process requires balance, i.e., the standards development process should have a balance of interests and shall not be dominated by any single interest category." Else we could have folks claiming they can either ballot or walk in and speak without going through the normal requirements (which are not discriminatory) of either meeting registration requirements or joining the ballot pool/group. I think we can add this text with no problem with the IEEE. Matthew Sherman, PhD Senior Member Technical Staff BAE SYSTEMS, CNIR Office: +1 973.633.6344 email: matthew.sherman@baesystems.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-stds-802-sec@listserv.ieee.org [mailto:owner-stds-802-sec@listserv.ieee.org]On Behalf Of Sherman, Matthew J. (US SSA) Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 4:32 PM To: STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org Subject: Re: [802SEC] +++ LMSC P&P Revision Ballot +++ compliance withIEEE-SA and IEEE CS Governance Hi Everyone, Just a reminder that this closes in about 1 week. Please get you votes and any comments in. I'm pretty tied up this week, but will get out a summary of the current voting and comments on Friday. Thanks, Mat Matthew Sherman, PhD Senior Member Technical Staff BAE SYSTEMS, CNIR Office: +1 973.633.6344 email: matthew.sherman@baesystems.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Sherman, Matthew J. (US SSA) > Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 11:08 PM > To: STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org > Cc: 'Paul Nikolich'; 'Jim Moore.'; 'm.nielsen@ieee.org'; 'd.ringle@ieee.org'; 'Bob Pritchard'; steve_mills@hp.com > Subject: +++ LMSC P&P Revision Ballot +++ compliance with IEEE-SA and IEEE CS Governance > > Dear EC members, > Attached you will find the text for an LMSC P&P revision ballot on compliance with IEEE-SA and IEEE-CS governance. This ballot was approved at the Friday July 16, 2004 EC meeting. The text is identical to that presented at the meeting. The purpose and rationale for the ballot are as given in the attached ballot document. > Ballot Opens: September 10, 2004 > Ballot Closes: October 11, 2004 11:59 PM EDT > WG chairs, please distribute this P&P revision ballot to your WG, and invite them to comment through you. Note that I am actively reviewing governance documents and will provide feedback on the reflector during this ballot and the following comment resolution period. > Thanks & Regards, > Mat > > << File: 802.0-Compliance_with_SA&CS_Governance-P&P_Revision_ballot.pdf >> > > Matthew Sherman, PhD > Vice Chair, IEEE 802 > Senior Member Technical Staff > BAE SYSTEMS, CNIR > Mail Stop 11B01 > 164 Totowa Road > Wayne, NJ 07474-0975 > Office: +1 973.633.6344 > Cell: +1 973.229.9520 > Fax: +1 973.633.6004 > email: matthew.sherman@baesystems.com > > > > ---------- This email is sent from the 802 Executive Committee email reflector. This list is maintained by Listserv. ---------- This email is sent from the 802 Executive Committee email reflector. This list is maintained by Listserv. ---------- This email is sent from the 802 Executive Committee email reflector. This list is maintained by Listserv.
draft_041114 LMSC_PandP_changes_for_SAandCS_Conformance.zip