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[802SEC] +++ LMSC P&P Revision Ballot Results +++ compliance with IEEE-SA and IEEE CS Governance



Dear EC members,

 

The ballot on “Compliance with IEEE-SA and IEEE CS Governance” is now closed.  The results are:

 

TOTALS: DIS  DNV  APP  ABS

       -00- -11- -05- -00-

 

The ballot fails due to lack of response.  Details on the results and comments are provided below.  Please let me know if you see any errors. 

 

There will be comment resolution for this ballot on Sunday 11/14/04 @ 6 PM.  All EC members are encouraged to attend.

 

Thanks & Regards,

 

Mat

 

Matthew Sherman, PhD

Vice Chair, IEEE 802

Senior Member Technical Staff

BAE SYSTEMS, CNIR

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Wayne, NJ 07474-0975

Office: +1 973.633.6344

Cell: +1 973.229.9520

Fax: +1 973.633.6004

email: matthew.sherman@baesystems.com

 

 

 

 

Voters                  DNV         DIS         DNV         APP   ABS   Comments Provided?

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00 Paul Nikolich                                            APP         No         

01 Mat Sherman                                              APP         Yes

02 Howard Frazier       DNV

03 Buzz Rigsbee         DNV

04 Bob O'Hara           DNV

05 John Hawkins                                             APP         Yes

06 Tony Jeffree                                             APP         No

07 Bob Grow             DNV

08 Stuart Kerry         DNV

09 Bob Heile            DNV

10 Roger Marks          DNV

11 Mike Takefman        DNV

12 Carl Stevenson                                           APP         No

13 Steve Shellhammer    DNV

14 Jerry Upton          DNV

15 Ajay Rajkumar        DNV

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TOTALS  DIS  DNV  APP  ABS

total: -00- -11- -05- -00-

 

 

 

 

Ballot Comments:

John Hawkins [jhawkins@nortelnetworks.com]                              Mon 10/11/2004 10:36 AM

 

Question: what's next? Are we done? Or is this just getting us into conformance, and the real heavy lifting is yet to come? (or something else?)

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Sherman, Matthew J. (US SSA)                                            Sun 10/10/2004 11:08 PM

 

Note that I have voted "approve" with comments. I have additional recommended changes that I feel are required to be in full conformance with IEEE-SA / IEEE CS governance.  I have attached a PowerPoint file that summarizes my efforts, and a marked up draft of our current P&P that includes the changes I am proposing at this time.

 

 

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PreBallot Comments (I believe these were accommodated in the balloted wording of the text):

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Stevenson, Carl R (Carl) [carlstevenson@AGERE.COM]                      Tue 7/20/2004 1:28 PM

 

Geoff's comments are good, and I would echo them.

 

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Geoff Thompson [gthompso@nortelnetworks.com]                            Mon 7/19/2004 1:11 AM

 

I feel that the text that opens things up completely could be used against us.

Therefore, please consider the following change (If I had a vote it would be DISAPPROVE to get this change in.)

From:

"These Operating Procedures outline the orderly transaction of business of this committee. For the development of standards, openness and due process must apply, which means that any individual with a direct and material interest has a right to participate by:

a) expressing a position and its basis,

b) having that position considered, and

c) appealing if adversely affected.

Due process allows for equity and fair play. In addition to openness, due process requires balance, i.e., the standards development process should have a balance of interests and shall not be dominated by any single interest category."

To:

"These Operating Procedures outline the orderly transaction of business of this committee. For the development of standards, openness and due process must apply, which means that any individual with a direct and material interest, who meets the participation requirements has a right to participate by:

a) expressing a position and its basis,

b) having that position considered, and

c) appealing if adversely affected.

Due process allows for equity and fair play. In addition to openness, due process requires balance, i.e., the standards development process should have a balance of interests and shall not be dominated by any single interest category."

Else we could have folks claiming they can either ballot or walk in and speak without going through the normal requirements (which are not discriminatory) of either meeting registration requirements or joining the ballot pool/group.

 

I think we can add this text with no problem with the IEEE.

 

 

 

 

Matthew Sherman, PhD

Senior Member Technical Staff

BAE SYSTEMS, CNIR

Office: +1 973.633.6344

email: matthew.sherman@baesystems.com

 

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