Re: [802SEC] +++EC Email Ballot+++ENDS 10 SEPT+++authorization of Press Release on approval of 802.11.2 (evaluation of 802.11 wless performance) project+++Final Tally:APPROVED

["Grow, Bob" <bob.grow@INTEL.COM>]

I believe my I flipped my vote when they accepted my comments.  If it
was less than clear, I will make it so now that I approved of the final
release.
 
--Bob Grow


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        From: owner-stds-802-sec@listserv.ieee.org
[mailto:owner-stds-802-sec@listserv.ieee.org] On Behalf Of Paul Nikolich
        Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 6:04 PM
        To: STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org
        Subject: [802SEC] +++EC Email Ballot+++ENDS 10
SEPT+++authorization of Press Release on approval of 802.11.2
(evaluation of 802.11 wless performance) project+++Final Tally:APPROVED
	
	
        Dear EC members,
	
        The below email ballot closed 2PMedt 10Sept 2004.  Please note
the text of the PR has changed per the friendly ammendments offered by
Bob Grow and Bob O'Hara and were accepted by the mover/seconder.  See
the attached document for the text as ammended.
         
        The tentative tally for the below motion is
	
        11 Approve
        01 Disapprove
        02 Did Not Vote
        01 Abstains
         
        Please verify your vote, if I did not record it correctly below,
send me a correction note.
	
        Regards,
	
        --Paul Nikolich
	
	
        Vote categories:          DIS    DNV     APP    ABS
          -----------------------------------------------
          01 Mat Sherman.                        APP
          02 Howard Frazier=             DNV
          03 Buzz Rigsbee.                       APP
          04 Bob O'Hara.                         APP
          05 John Hawkins.                       APP
          06 Tony Jeffree.                       APP
          07 Bob Grow.            DIS/comments
          08 Stuart Kerry.                       APP
          09 Bob Heile.                  DNV
          10 Roger Marks.                               ABS
          11 Mike Takefman.                      APP
          12 Carl Stevenson.                     APP
          13 Steve Shellhammer.                  APP
          14 Jerry Upton.                        APP
          15 Ajay Rajkumar.                      APP
                                  ---++++---+++++---++++---
          TOTALS                  DIS    DNV     APP    ABS
                           total: -01-   -02-    -11-   -01-
         
        Bob Grow comments:
        Disapprove
         
        1.  The release confuses clear IEEE 802 branding.  It should not
include any abbreviations that will confuse our standards customers
between organizational groups and standards projects.  I find "task
group 802.11T" and "IEEE 802.11t Task Group" as confusing.  While some
of us identify our subgroups with the project name, I don't believe that
is the case here.  The project is P802.11.2 and the group driving the
project is IEEE 802.11 TG-T (or pick some other abbreviation that isn't
like the name of a project).
         
        2.  Inconsistent placement of "P".  Early on, it is properly
located (IEEE P802.11.2) but toward the end it is improperly located
(PIEEE 802.11.2).  Correct the instances of the latter.
         
        3.  I believe the circle R is improperly used near the bottom of
the release.  The committee is not a product, it is a group of people
and registration marks are only applied to products. I note that marks
are not applied to IEEE Computer Society and IEEE Standards
Associations, we are no different!
         
        Bob O'Hara comments:
	
        Disapprove.
         
        I support all of Bob Grow's comments on what is wrong with this
press release, except for the use of 802.11t as the task group name.
The occurrence of "802.11T" should be replaced with "802.11t".  I also
agree with the comment made by Carl Stevenson, as well, striking out
specific text.
         
         -Bob
          
         
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Paul Nikolich <mailto:paul.nikolich@ATT.NET>  
        To: STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org 
        Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 1:49 PM
        Subject: [802SEC] +++EC Email Ballot+++ENDS 3
SEPT+++authorization of Press Release on approval of 802.11.2
(evaluation of 802.11 wless performance) project

        Dear EC members,
         
        This is a 10 day EC email ballot on the following motion:
         
        Motion: Approve the attached press release on the approval of
the 802.11.2 PAR for distribution.
        Moved: Carl Stevenson
        Second: Mat Sherman
         
        The ballot duration will be 10 days.  It opens 2pm edt 24 August
and closes 2pm edt 3 September.
         
        Regards,
         
        --Paul Nikolich
         
         
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: "Stevenson, Carl R (Carl)" <carlstevenson@AGERE.COM

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