Re: [802SEC] +++EC Email Ballot+++ENDS 3 SEPT+++authorization of PressRelease on approval of 802.11.2 (evaluation of 802.11 wless performance)project+++Tentative Tally
Approve.
-ajay
On 9/1/2004 4:46 PM, Paul Nikolich wrote:
> Dear EC Members,
>
> Karen McCabe has agreed to prepare a version of the release with B&B
> comments for tomorrow (even though she is on vacation--thanks Karen.)
> We can review that version for approval.
>
> Regards,
>
> --Paul Nikolich
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Sherman, Matthew J. (US SSA)
> <mailto:matthew.sherman@baesystems.com>
> To: Paul Nikolich <mailto:p.nikolich@IEEE.ORG> ;
> STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org <mailto:STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 4:21 PM
> Subject: RE: [802SEC] +++EC Email Ballot+++ENDS 3
> SEPT+++authorization of PressRelease on approval of 802.11.2
> (evaluation of 802.11 wless performance)project+++Tentative Tally
>
> I will approve with Bob and Bob's comments as friendly ammendments.
>
>
> Matthew Sherman, PhD
> Senior Member Technical Staff
> BAE SYSTEMS, CNIR
> Office: +1 973.633.6344
> email: matthew.sherman@baesystems.com
> <mailto:matthew.sherman@baesystems.com>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-stds-802-sec@listserv.ieee.org
> <mailto:owner-stds-802-sec@listserv.ieee.org>
> [mailto:owner-stds-802-sec@listserv.ieee.org]On Behalf Of Paul
> Nikolich
> Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 3:04 PM
> To: STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org
> <mailto:STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org>
> Subject: [802SEC] +++EC Email Ballot+++ENDS 3
> SEPT+++authorization of PressRelease on approval of 802.11.2
> (evaluation of 802.11 wless performance)project+++Tentative Tally
>
> Dear EC members,
>
> The below email ballot closes 2PMedt 03Sept 2004. The tentative
> tally for the below motion is
>
> 06 Approve
> 02 Disapprove
> 07 Did Not Vote
> 00 Abstains
>
> I suggest that Bob Grow's and Bob O'Hara's comments be endorsed
> as friendly ammendments by the mover/seconder (Carl/Mat).
>
> If the mover/seconder agree to adopt the comments as friendly
> ammendments, I further propose we delay the ballot close until
> 2PM 10 September 2004 to give the EC members to consider the
> ammendments and have an opportunity to change their votes.
>
> Please verify your vote, if I did not record it correctly below,
> send me a correction note.
>
> Regards,
>
> --Paul Nikolich
>
>
> Vote categories: DIS DNV APP ABS
> -----------------------------------------------
> 01 Mat Sherman= DNV
> 02 Howard Frazier= DNV
> 03 Buzz Rigsbee= DNV
> 04 Bob O'Hara. DIS/comments
> 05 John Hawkins. APP
> 06 Tony Jeffree. APP
> 07 Bob Grow. DIS/comments
> 08 Stuart Kerry= DNV
> 09 Bob Heile= DNV
> 10 Roger Marks= DNV
> 11 Mike Takefman. APP
> 12 Carl Stevenson. APP
> 13 Steve Shellhammer. APP
> 14 Jerry Upton. APP
> 15 Ajay Rajkumar= DNV
> ---++++---+++++---++++---
> TOTALS DIS DNV APP ABS
> total: -02- -07- -06- -00-
>
> Bob Grow comments:
> Disapprove
>
> 1. The release confuses clear IEEE 802 branding. It should not
> include any abbreviations that will confuse our standards
> customers between organizational groups and standards projects.
> I find "task group 802.11T" and "IEEE 802.11t Task Group" as
> confusing. While some of us identify our subgroups with the
> project name, I don't believe that is the case here. The
> project is P802.11.2 and the group driving the project is IEEE
> 802.11 TG-T (or pick some other abbreviation that isn't like the
> name of a project).
>
> 2. Inconsistent placement of "P". Early on, it is properly
> located (IEEE P802.11.2) but toward the end it is improperly
> located (PIEEE 802.11.2). Correct the instances of the latter.
>
> 3. I believe the circle R is improperly used near the bottom of
> the release. The committee is not a product, it is a group of
> people and registration marks are only applied to products. I
> note that marks are not applied to IEEE Computer Society and
> IEEE Standards Associations, we are no different!
>
> Bob O'Hara comments:
> Disapprove.
>
> I support all of Bob Grow's comments on what is wrong with this
> press release, except for the use of 802.11t as the task group
> name. The occurrence of "802.11T" should be replaced with
> "802.11t". I also agree with the comment made by Carl
> Stevenson, as well, striking out specific text.
>
> -Bob
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Paul Nikolich <mailto:paul.nikolich@ATT.NET>
> To: STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org
> <mailto:STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 1:49 PM
> Subject: [802SEC] +++EC Email Ballot+++ENDS 3
> SEPT+++authorization of Press Release on approval of 802.11.2
> (evaluation of 802.11 wless performance) project
>
> Dear EC members,
>
> This is a 10 day EC email ballot on the following motion:
>
> Motion: Approve the attached press release on the approval of
> the 802.11.2 PAR for distribution.
> Moved: Carl Stevenson
> Second: Mat Sherman
>
> The ballot duration will be 10 days. It opens 2pm edt 24 August
> and closes 2pm edt 3 September.
>
> Regards,
>
> --Paul Nikolich
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Stevenson, Carl R (Carl)" <carlstevenson@AGERE.COM
> <mailto:carlstevenson@AGERE.COM>>
> To: <STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org
> <mailto:STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org>>
> Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 9:11 PM
> Subject: Re: [802SEC] mover/second for EC ballot on Press
> Release on approval of 802.11.2 (evaluation of 802.11 wless
> performance) project
>
> Paul,
>
> I will make the motion if the deletion marked by "strikeout" in the
> attached version is adopted.
>
> I think the "and inherently unstable" language could give an
> unfavorable
> impression in the press that would not be good for 802.11.
>
> I think it's sufficient to say "dynamic" and leave it at that.
>
> Regards,
> Carl
>
>
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