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Paul,
I vote Abstain, supporting the comments made previously
in an email by Bob O'Hara.
/ Stuart From: owner-stds-802-sec@listserv.ieee.org [mailto:owner-stds-802-sec@listserv.ieee.org] On Behalf Of paul.nikolich@ATT.NET Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 08:44 To: STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org Subject: [802SEC] +++EC Email Ballot+++ENDS 4 SEPT+++ 802.4 Disband Motion+++tally update I noticed I did have the correct tally in the first
email, this one corrects it.
--Paul
----- Original Message -----
From: Paul
Nikolich
Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 10:53 AM
Subject: [802SEC] +++EC Email Ballot+++ENDS 4 SEPT+++ Disbanding of
802.4+++tally update Dear EC members,
The below email ballot closes 5pm edt 4Sept 2004. The tentative tally for the below motion is 07 Approve 01 Disapprove 06 Did Not Vote 01 Abstains Please remember to cast your vote (or if I did not
record it correctly below, send me a correction note.)
Regards, --Paul Nikolich Vote categories: DIS DNV APP ABS ----------------------------------------------- 01 Mat Sherman= APP 02 Howard Frazier' DNV 03 Buzz Rigsbee= DIS 04 Bob O'Hara= ABS 05 John Hawkins= APP 06 Tony Jeffree- APP 07 Bob Grow= APP 08 Stuart Kerry. DNV 09 Bob Heile DNV 10 Roger Marks. DNV 11 Mike Takefman. DNV 12 Carl Stevenson= APP 13 Steve Shellhammer= APP 14 Jerry Upton= APP 15 Ajay Rajkumar. DNV ---++++---+++++---++++--- TOTALS DIS DNV APP ABS total: -01- -06- -07- -01- ----- Original Message -----
From: Paul
Nikolich
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 4:17 PM
Subject: [802SEC] +++EC Email Ballot+++ENDS 4 SEPT+++ Disbanding of
802.4 Dear EC members,
I am withdrawing the original disbanding
of 802.4 and 802.9 motion on behalf of the mover and seconder and replacing it
with two motions, one to disband 802.4 and one to disband 802.9.
This is a 30 day email ballot to make a
determination on the following motion:
Whereas 802.4 is in hibernation and no longer
has any active standards I move to to disband 802.4 per Clause 7.2.5.1
of our P&P."
Moved: Mat Sherman, Second: Tony
Jeffree
The ballot opens 04August 2004 5pm edt and
closes 04September 2004 5pm edt.
Regards,
--Paul Nikolich ----- Original Message -----
From: Paul
Nikolich
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 1:03 PM
Subject: [802SEC] +++EC Email Ballot+++ENDS 4 SEPT+++ Disbanding of
802.4 and 802.9 Dear EC Members,
This is a 30 day email ballot to make a
determination on the following motion:
Motion:
Whereas 802.4 and 802.9 are in hibernation and no
longer appear to have any active standards, per Clause 7.2.5.1 of our P&P
I'd like to request a 30 day electronic ballot of the EC on a motion to disband
802.4 and 802.9.
The ballot opens 04August 2004 1pm edt and closes 04September 2004 1pm
edt.
Regards,
--Paul Nikolich PLEASE NOTE THE BELOW:
I have contacted the chairs of the hibernating
802.4 and 802.9 Working Groups, Paul Eastman and Dhadesugoor Vaman to get their
input on the disbanding of their Working Groups. They have also been
copied on this email ballot. On behalf of the entire LMSC, I wish to thank
Paul and Dhadesugoor for their time and energy they have spent over the years in
leading their respective projects.
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Vaman concurs with the disbanding action
and his response to my inquiry was as follows:
"Dear Paul: Greetings. I think you should go ahead with the plans for disbandment of
IEEE 802.9. I do not think that any body has any problems, since the group has
not met for many years.
[irrelevant text deleted]...
Best regards
Vaman
(T) 301-514-7880"
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Paul Eastman disagrees with the disbanding action and his response to my
inquiry was as follows:
"I disagreed with the disbanding in 2000 (or 2001) and I still disagree.
These standards are still in use in isolated applications. I also
believe that these old standards should have the right to protect their legacy.
Under the current rules, there is no method for such protection. I
know that I am in a very small minority regarding my opinion but I am not about
to roll over in bowing to the majority. I will abide by the majority but will
maintain my opinion. I do not remember when (other than 2000 or 2001)
802.4 was disbanded.
-- Paul Eastman" --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message -----
From: Paul
Nikolich
Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2004 9:04 AM
Subject: [802SEC] Disbanding of 802.4 and 802.9 Dear EC members,
There has been a motion to disband 802.4 and 802.9,
made by Mat Sherman and seconded by Tony Jeffree as shown below:
Motion:
Whereas 802.4 and 802.9 are in hibernation and no
longer appear to have any active standards, per Clause 7.2.5.1 of our P&P
I'd like to request a 30 day electronic ballot of the EC on a motion to disband
802.4 and 802.9.
Before I initiate the formal email ballot, I
will attempt to get the chairs of the hibernating working groups to confirm they
agree with this action (Paul Eastman, 802.4 and Dhadesugoor Vaman,
802.9.) over the next several days. I have copied Paul Eastman on
this email. I don't have a current email for Vaman, so I've also
copied John Boal, who I believe is in contact with Vaman and can notify him of
our plans.
Regards,
--Paul Nikolich
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