Re: [802SEC] +++EC Email Ballot+++ENDS 4 SEPT+++ Disbanding of 802.4
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I
agree with Tony ... that's why I voted approve.
Carl
Buzz
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As the WG has no active standards or PARs, I believe disbandment is
the only course of action that makes any
sense.
Regards,
Tony
At 21:26 04/08/2004, Rigsbee,
Everett O wrote:
Paul, I vote against (to disapprove) this motion.
I believe we
should heed the advice of Paul Eastman, the current WG chair, as to what is
in the best interest of the WG.
Thanx, Buzz
Dr.
Everett O. (Buzz) Rigsbee
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- -----Original Message-----
- From: Paul Nikolich [mailto:paul.nikolich@ATT.NET]
- Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 1:17 PM
- To: STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
- Subject: [802SEC] +++EC Email Ballot+++ENDS 4 SEPT+++ Disbanding
of 802.4
- Dear EC members,
- I am withdrawing the original disbanding of
802.4 and 802.9 motion on behalf of the mover and seconder and replacing
it with two motions, one to disband 802.4 and one to disband
802.9.
- This is a 30 day email ballot to make a
determination on the following motion:
- Whereas 802.4 is in hibernation and no longer
has any active standards I move to to disband 802.4 per Clause 7.2.5.1 of
our P&P."
- Moved: Mat Sherman, Second: Tony
Jeffree
- The ballot opens 04August 2004 5pm edt and
closes 04September 2004 5pm edt.
- Regards,
- --Paul Nikolich
- ----- Original Message -----
- From: Paul Nikolich
- To: STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
- Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 1:03 PM
- Subject: [802SEC] +++EC Email Ballot+++ENDS 4 SEPT+++ Disbanding
of 802.4 and 802.9
- Dear EC Members,
- This is a 30 day email ballot to make a
determination on the following motion:
- Motion:
- Whereas 802.4 and 802.9 are in hibernation and no longer appear to
have any active standards, per Clause 7.2.5.1 of our P&P I'd like to
request a 30 day electronic ballot of the EC on a motion to disband 802.4
and 802.9.
- The ballot opens 04August 2004 1pm edt and closes 04September 2004 1pm
edt.
- Regards,
- --Paul Nikolich
- PLEASE NOTE THE BELOW:
- I have contacted the chairs of the hibernating 802.4 and 802.9 Working
Groups, Paul Eastman and Dhadesugoor Vaman to get their input on the
disbanding of their Working Groups. They have also been copied on
this email ballot. On behalf of the entire LMSC, I wish to thank
Paul and Dhadesugoor for their time and energy they have spent over the
years in leading their respective projects.
- -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
- Vaman concurs with the disbanding action and his response to my
inquiry was as follows:
- "Dear Paul:
- Greetings. I think you should go ahead with the plans for disbandment
of IEEE 802.9. I do not think that any body has any problems, since the
group has not met for many years.
- [irrelevant text deleted]...
- Best regards
- Vaman
- (T) 301-514-7880"
- vaman@sbcglobal.net
- -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
- Paul Eastman disagrees with the disbanding action and his response to
my inquiry was as follows:
- "I disagreed with the disbanding in 2000 (or 2001) and I still
disagree. These standards are still in use in isolated
applications. I also believe that these old standards should have
the right to protect their legacy. Under the current rules, there is
no method for such protection. I know that I am in a very small
minority regarding my opinion but I am not about to roll over in bowing to
the majority. I will abide by the majority but will maintain my
opinion. I do not remember when (other than 2000 or 2001) 802.4 was
disbanded.
- -- Paul Eastman"
- paul@rfnetworks.com
- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
- ----- Original Message -----
- From: Paul Nikolich
- To: STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org
- Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2004 9:04 AM
- Subject: [802SEC] Disbanding of 802.4 and 802.9
- Dear EC members,
- There has been a motion to disband 802.4 and
802.9, made by Mat Sherman and seconded by Tony Jeffree as shown
below:
- Motion:
- Whereas 802.4 and 802.9 are in hibernation and no longer appear to
have any active standards, per Clause 7.2.5.1 of our P&P I'd like to
request a 30 day electronic ballot of the EC on a motion to disband 802.4
and 802.9.
- Before I initiate the formal email ballot, I
will attempt to get the chairs of the hibernating working groups to
confirm they agree with this action (Paul Eastman, 802.4 and Dhadesugoor
Vaman, 802.9.) over the next several days. I have copied Paul
Eastman on this email. I don't have a current email for Vaman, so
I've also copied John Boal, who I believe is in contact with Vaman and can
notify him of our plans.
- Regards,
- --Paul Nikolich
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Tony
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