Moved: Mat Sherman, Second: Tony
Jeffree
Upon confirmation from the mover/seconder, I will
terminate the current ballot and run two separate email ballots.
Regards,
--Paul Nikolich
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 1:47
PM
Subject: RE: [802SEC] +++EC Email
Ballot+++ENDS 4 SEPT+++ Disbanding of 802.4 and 802.9
Paul, In view of the significant difference
between the two WG's:
1.
802.4 was commercially successful for several years and developed a
non-trivial user base that still has proponents today, whereas 802.9 was
never a commercial product and had no user community.
2.
802.4 has maintained all it's requirements for a hibernating working group,
802.9 has not.
3. The chair of 802.4 opposes disbanding the
group, whereas the chair of 802.9 is in agreement with disbanding.
I
suggest that you split the motion to address each WG separately because I
for one would like to vote approve for disbanding 802.9 and opposed to
disbanding 802.4, and if not given the opportunity to do so I will have to
vote opposed to both.
Thanx, Buzz
Dr. Everett O. (Buzz) Rigsbee
Boeing
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PO Box 3707, M/S: 7M-FM
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(425)
865-2443 Fx: (425) 865-6721
cell: (425)
417-1022
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Dear EC Members,
This is a 30 day email ballot to make a
determination on the following motion:
Motion:
Whereas 802.4 and 802.9 are in hibernation
and no longer appear to have any active standards, per Clause 7.2.5.1 of
our P&P I'd like to request a 30 day electronic ballot of the EC on a
motion to disband 802.4 and 802.9.
The ballot opens 04August 2004 1pm edt and closes 04September
2004 1pm edt.
Regards,
--Paul Nikolich
PLEASE NOTE THE BELOW:
I have contacted the chairs of the
hibernating 802.4 and 802.9 Working Groups, Paul Eastman and Dhadesugoor
Vaman to get their input on the disbanding of their Working Groups.
They have also been copied on this email ballot. On behalf of the
entire LMSC, I wish to thank Paul and Dhadesugoor for their time and
energy they have spent over the years in leading their respective
projects.
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Vaman concurs with the disbanding action
and his response to my inquiry was as follows:
"Dear Paul:
Greetings. I think you should go ahead with the plans for disbandment
of IEEE 802.9. I do not think that any body has any problems, since the
group has not met for many years.
[irrelevant text deleted]...
Best regards
Vaman
(T) 301-514-7880"
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Paul Eastman disagrees with the disbanding action and his response to
my inquiry was as follows:
"I disagreed with the disbanding in 2000 (or 2001) and I still
disagree. These standards are still in use in isolated applications.
I also believe that these old standards should have the right to
protect their legacy. Under the current rules, there is no method
for such protection. I know that I am in a very small minority
regarding my opinion but I am not about to roll over in bowing to the
majority. I will abide by the majority but will maintain my opinion.
I do not remember when (other than 2000 or 2001) 802.4 was
disbanded.
-- Paul Eastman"
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2004 9:04 AM
Subject: [802SEC] Disbanding of 802.4 and 802.9
Dear EC members,
There has been a motion to disband 802.4 and
802.9, made by Mat Sherman and seconded by Tony Jeffree as shown
below:
Motion:
Whereas 802.4 and 802.9 are in hibernation
and no longer appear to have any active standards, per Clause 7.2.5.1 of
our P&P I'd like to request a 30 day electronic ballot of the EC on a
motion to disband 802.4 and 802.9.
Before I initiate the formal email
ballot, I will attempt to get the chairs of the hibernating working groups
to confirm they agree with this action (Paul Eastman, 802.4 and
Dhadesugoor Vaman, 802.9.) over the next several days. I have
copied Paul Eastman on this email. I don't have a current email
for Vaman, so I've also copied John Boal, who I believe is in contact
with Vaman and can notify him of our plans.
Regards,
--Paul Nikolich
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