I
confirm splitting the motion.
Matthew Sherman,
PhD Senior Member Technical Staff
BAE SYSTEMS, CNIR Office: +1 973.633.6344 email: matthew.sherman@baesystems.com
Dear EC members,
Tony, good point. Since you and Mat
are the mover/seconder, I'll need your confirmation on the following
restatement of the motion:
"Motion: Whereas 802.4
and 802.9 are in hibernation and no longer have any active standards I
move to to disband 802.4 and 802.9 per Clause 7.2.5.1 of our
P&P."
Moved: Mat Sherman, Second: Tony
Jeffree
As soon as you and Mat confirm, I'll restart
the ballot.
Regards,
--Paul
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 1:34
PM
Subject: Re: [802SEC] +++EC Email
Ballot+++ENDS 4 SEPT+++ Disbanding of 802.4 and 802.9
Paul -
This 30-day
ballot seems to be requesting a 30-day ballot - i.e., if this ballot passes
we have to run another ballot before these WGs go away. I would suggest you
get the wording of the motion & ballot straightened out so we don't have
to run this twice ;-)
Either way, I vote
"Approve".
Regards, Tony
At 18:03 04/08/2004, Paul Nikolich
wrote:
Dear EC
Members, This is a 30 day
email ballot to make a determination on the following
motion: Motion: Whereas 802.4 and 802.9 are in hibernation
and no longer appear to have any active standards, per Clause 7.2.5.1 of
our P&P I'd like to request a 30 day electronic ballot of the EC on a
motion to disband 802.4 and 802.9. The ballot opens 04August
2004 1pm edt and closes 04September 2004 1pm
edt. Regards, --Paul
Nikolich PLEASE
NOTE THE BELOW: I have contacted the chairs of the
hibernating 802.4 and 802.9 Working Groups, Paul Eastman and Dhadesugoor
Vaman to get their input on the disbanding of their Working Groups.
They have also been copied on this email ballot. On behalf of the
entire LMSC, I wish to thank Paul and Dhadesugoor for their time and
energy they have spent over the years in leading their respective
projects. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Vaman
concurs with the disbanding action and his response to my inquiry was as
follows:
"Dear Paul: Greetings. I think you should go ahead with
the plans for disbandment of IEEE 802.9. I do not think that any body has
any problems, since the group has not met for many years. [irrelevant
text deleted]... Best regards Vaman (T) 301-514-7880" vaman@sbcglobal.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Paul
Eastman disagrees with the disbanding action and his response to my
inquiry was as follows: "I disagreed with the disbanding in
2000 (or 2001) and I still disagree. These standards are still in
use in isolated applications. I also believe that these old
standards should have the right to protect their legacy. Under the
current rules, there is no method for such protection. I know that I
am in a very small minority regarding my opinion but I am not about to
roll over in bowing to the majority. I will abide by the majority but will
maintain my opinion. I do not remember when (other than 2000 or
2001) 802.4 was disbanded.
-- Paul Eastman" paul@rfnetworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -----
Original Message ----- From: Paul Nikolich To: STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org
Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2004 9:04 AM Subject:
[802SEC] Disbanding of 802.4 and 802.9
Dear
EC members, There has been a
motion to disband 802.4 and 802.9, made by Mat Sherman and seconded by
Tony Jeffree as shown below: Motion: Whereas 802.4 and 802.9 are in hibernation and no longer
appear to have any active standards, per Clause 7.2.5.1 of our P&P I'd
like to request a 30 day electronic ballot of the EC on a motion to
disband 802.4 and 802.9. Before I initiate the formal email ballot, I will attempt to get
the chairs of the hibernating working groups to confirm they agree with
this action (Paul Eastman, 802.4 and Dhadesugoor Vaman, 802.9.) over the
next several days. I have copied Paul Eastman on this email. I
don't have a current email for Vaman, so I've also copied John Boal, who I
believe is in contact with Vaman and can notify him of our
plans. Regards, --Paul
Nikolich
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