Re: [802SEC] Disbanding of 802.4 and 802.9
I'm sure you are right about 802.12. I'm not sure if we have already disbanded it, but it can't hurt anything to do it twice. I think it may be that the last time it came up there was still an 802.12 supplement in effect or it may be that we didn't do it because the ISO/IEC version still had time to run. That should now be nearing end of life if it hasn't already. By the way, I thought it was withdrawn but the Get802 website doesn't reflect that.
802.5: Its latest supplement has a 2001 date and I don't recall it not being withdrawn. Also, there was a reaffirmation ballot conducted on 802.5. I know I saw the original ballot but I can't recall whether there was a recirculation. At the time I got the ballot, I checked and there still seemed to be people selling Token Ring gear so I voted to affirm. Is there someone who can check on the status of that? In any case, the transition of 802.5 to hibernation/inactivity is more recent than the others and it is probably premature to disband it even though I recognize the appeal of clearing our books of old activities.
802.2: I thought this was discussed on the Executive Committee reflector with the conclusion that there were reasons to do a reaffirmation. If 802.5 was reaffirmed, there is some argument for reaffirming 802.2 which required for it. I don't know if a reaffirmation was ever conducted.
In any case, .5 and .2 may be more controversial and should be done as a separate motion.
Regards,
Pat
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From: owner-stds-802-sec@listserv.ieee.org
[mailto:owner-stds-802-sec@listserv.ieee.org]On Behalf Of Grow, Bob
Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2004 12:25 PM
To: STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org
Subject: Re: [802SEC] Disbanding of 802.4 and 802.9
If we are doing organizational housekeeping, I would recommend we
disband all inactive WGs. If my quick check is right, 2, 5, and 12 are
all dated 1998, and haven't been reaffirmed and are therefore candidates
to be stabilized or withdrawn.
--Bob
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>[mailto:owner-stds-802-sec@listserv.ieee.org] On Behalf Of Bob O'Hara
>Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2004 11:05 AM
>To: STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org
>Subject: Re: [802SEC] Disbanding of 802.4 and 802.9
>
>The information that I have (and that is on the web site at:
>
>http://www.ieee802.org/dots.html
>
>Is that 2, 4, 5, 9, and 12 are inactive. 6, 7, 8, 10, and 14 are
>disbanded.
>
> -Bob
>
>
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>[mailto:owner-stds-802-sec@listserv.ieee.org] On Behalf Of
>Paul Nikolich
>Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2004 5:28 AM
>To: STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org
>Subject: Re: [802SEC] Disbanding of 802.4 and 802.9
>
>
>Tony,
>
>802.6, 802.7, 802.8, 802.10 and 802.14 have been formally disbanded
>already.
>
>--Paul
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Tony Jeffree" <tony@JEFFREE.CO.UK>
>To: <STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org>
>Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2004 3:54 AM
>Subject: Re: [802SEC] Disbanding of 802.4 and 802.9
>
>
>> While we are at it, have .6, .7, and .8 all been formally disbanded?
>If
>> not, they probably should be.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Tony
>>
>> At 08:45 29/07/2004, Tony Jeffree wrote:
>> >I second the motion.
>> >
>> >(I am surprised that we haven't done this already!)
>> >
>> >Regards,
>> >Tony
>> >
>> >At 04:23 29/07/2004, Paul Nikolich wrote:
>> >>Dear EC Members,
>> >>
>> >>Mat has mad a motion for a 30 day electronic ballot to
>disband 802.4
>and
>> >>802.9. Is there a second to the motion?
>> >>
>> >>--Paul
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>----- Original Message -----
>> >>From: "Sherman, Matthew J. (US SSA)"
><matthew.sherman@BAESYSTEMS.COM>
>> >>To: <STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org>
>> >>Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 10:54 PM
>> >>Subject: [802SEC] Disbanding of 802.4 and 802.9
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > Paul,
>> >> >
>> >> > Whereas 802.4 and 802.9 are in hibernation and no longer appear
>to
>have
>> >>any active standards, per Clause 7.2.5.1 of our P&P I'd like to
>request
>a 30
>> >>day electronic ballot of the EC on a motion to disband 802.4 and
>802.9.
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks,
>> >> >
>> >> > Mat
>> >> >
>> >> > Matthew Sherman, PhD
>> >> > Senior Member Technical Staff
>> >> > BAE SYSTEMS, CNIR
>> >> > Office: +1 973.633.6344
>> >> > email: matthew.sherman@baesystems.com
>> >> >
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