RE: [802.1] Connectivity Fault Management draft PAR
- To: "Norman Finn" <nfinn@cisco.com>, <rbrand@nortelnetworks.com>
- Subject: RE: [802.1] Connectivity Fault Management draft PAR
- From: "Matt Squire" <MSquire@hatterasnetworks.com>
- Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 08:46:02 -0500
- Cc: "Tony Jeffree" <tony@jeffree.co.uk>, "Mick Seaman" <mick_seaman@ieee.org>, "Bob Grow" <bob.grow@ieee.org>, <dinesh@cisco.com>, <mohan@cisco.com>, "Malcom Betts" <betts01@nortalnetworks.com>, "Ali Sajassi" <sajassi@cisco.com>, <stds-802-sec@cisco.com>, "IEEE 802.1" <stds-802-1@ieee.org>, <dpannell@marvel.com>
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- Thread-Topic: [802.1] Connectivity Fault Management draft PAR
I'd personally like to see the PAR go forward sooner rather than later. There has been a great deal of communication on these issues with other groups including .3, ITU, and MEF. So the work hasn't been going on in isolation.
- Matt
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Norman Finn [mailto:nfinn@cisco.com]
> Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 3:15 PM
> To: rbrand@nortelnetworks.com
> Cc: Tony Jeffree; Mick Seaman; Bob Grow; dinesh@cisco.com;
> mohan@cisco.com; Malcom Betts; Ali Sajassi;
> stds-802-sec@cisco.com; IEEE
> 802.1; dpannell@marvel.com
> Subject: Re: [802.1] Connectivity Fault Management draft PAR
>
>
>
> Richard,
>
> Is this your company position? Dinesh Mohan, Malcom Betts,
> Ali Sajassi, and I have
> been working in close cooperation for some time in order to
> make sure that the
> excellent work being done in ITU-T Q.3/13, where there is an
> excellent understanding
> of providers and their needs, is complemented by work in IEEE
> 802.1, which has a
> correspondingly acute understanding of the Ethernet MAC
> service in general, and of
> bridges, in particular. For either group to progress without
> the other would be
> dangerous to the industry and to the progression of "Metro
> Ethernet" standards. It
> is essential that both groups work together. This is my
> understanding of the
> positions of the above individuals, of our respective
> companies, and of the two
> Working Groups. This has been the subject of considerable
> discussion and, I firmly
> believed, agreement among us all. I copy all of the above,
> of course; I wouldn't
> want to put words in their mouths.
>
> -- Norm
>
> Richard Brand wrote:
> > Tony:
> > Having read the draft, seeing a portion of the very large
> slide presentation made
> > at the January interim, and then rereading the scope of
> this PAR covering
> > "transport fault management", I would offer that this is
> major new work effort
> > for 802.1 that could have a major effect on many if not
> all 802 members. Fault
> > management has potential applicability to all 802 LANs.
> > Given this scope, I would strongly recommend that an 802.1
> Study Group be formed
> > for this activity before the requesting of a PAR, in order
> to give notice for all
> > 802 members of your intentions. However, in line with the
> contents of Procedure
> > 2, I would settle for an evening tutorial presentation in
> March as is "highly
> > recommended" in the Procedure. This would allow all 802
> members the opportunity
> > to participate/provide input for a potential PAR in July.
> > In this case, I am speaking for myself as a member and not
> for the 802.3 Working
> > Group, however I will bring it up to my group at our March
> plenary. FYI, 802.3
> > ran thru many study group meetings in arriving at an
> acceptable scope for our OAM
> > segment of P802.3ah and we only had one MAC to deal with.
> > Regards,
> > Richard Brand
> > Liaison rep from 802.3 to 802.1
> >
> >
> >
> > Tony Jeffree wrote:
> >
> >
> >>This is notification under Procedure 2 - "Procedure for
> PARs" that 802.1
> >>intends to request SEC approval of the following draft PAR
> at the March
> >>2004 closing SEC meeting:
> >>
> >>http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2004/ConnectivityF
aultPAR-v1.2a.doc
>>
>>Regards,
>>Tony
>>
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