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[802SEC] RE: Florida Tax on LANs



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Geoff,  We are right on the verge of closing another deal for a property in Orlando that would serve as a replacement (actually an upgrade) for the Hyatt Orlando and it meets the two requirements we were asked to observe when this first hit:  (1)  Don't change the dates!  and (2) Don't change the location (Orlando)!   Apparently more than a few folks have already made hard plans for that time frame because it is Spring Break and High Season too.  Dawn & I have more than 3 full weeks of work invested in finding options, qualifying them, and intense contract negotiation to get this deal to the point of being signable.  I'm am not about to consider throwing all of that away and starting over for something as flimsy as a political expediency.  I will gladly nominate you to head the letter writing campaign, but changing the meeting site again at this point in time is NOT an option.  Sorry about that.    :-)  
 
 
 

Thanx,  Buzz
Dr. Everett O. (Buzz) Rigsbee
Boeing - SSG
PO Box 3707, M/S: 7M-FM
Seattle, WA  98124-2207
(425) 865-2443    Fx: (425) 865-6721
everett.o.rigsbee@boeing.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Geoff Thompson [mailto:gthompso@nortelnetworks.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 1:28 PM
To: Rigsbee, Everett O
Cc: Geoff Thompson; Grow, Bob; scarlson@hspdesign.com; Richard Brand; dawns@facetoface-events.com; p.nikolich@ieee.org; 802 Exec
Subject: RE: Florida Tax on LANs

Buzz-

At 12:52 PM 10/9/2003 -0700, Rigsbee, Everett O wrote:
Whoa Guys,  Let's not fly off the handle here !!!  This sounds way too iffy to start canceling meetings over because there are BIG financial impacts to the group to do that. 

My request was to quantify the financial impact.
Also, since we have been undone from our March '04 venue by the closing of the hotel we are still at choice for our March '04 venue, aren't we?
Please provide us with that information.


However, it sounds like it might be an excellent time to organize an electronic letter writing campaign that everyone can easily participate in to indicate our sincere displeasure with such a notion and implying that the result of adoption of such as policy would certainly be cancellation of all future meetings there. 

The article said:
To be sure, the proposal is very preliminary. By putting it down on paper, state rulemakers are hoping to hear from businesses and others on how it would affect them, says the Department of Revenue's Bruns.

"We're hoping we get a lot of attention paid to this and understand what impact would it have," he says.

We certainly should be able to assist them in making sure that they "hear from businesses and others on how it would affect them"


Geoff

Thanx,  Buzz
Dr. Everett O. (Buzz) Rigsbee
Boeing - SSG
PO Box 3707, M/S: 7M-FM
Seattle, WA  98124-2207
(425) 865-2443    Fx: (425) 865-6721
everett.o.rigsbee@boeing.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Geoff Thompson [mailto:gthompso@nortelnetworks.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 8:08 PM
To: Grow, Bob
Cc: Rigsbee, Everett O; Geoff Thompson; scarlson@hspdesign.com; Richard Brand; dawns@facetoface-events.com; p.nikolich@ieee.org; 802 Exec
Subject: RE: Florida Tax on LANs

Bob-

Sounds good to me.

Should such discriminatory tax still be under consideration by the state of Florida when we convene in November, I would be happy to 2nd a motion to cancel scheduled 802 meetings in Florida and to send an appropriate advisory letter with copies to the Florida state chamber of commerce, the governor and the officers of the legislature.

Buzz, please advise of the financial implications.
(No, I do not want to spend March at DFW or in Albuquerque.)

BTW speaking of taxes, when I was in Ireland I was told by our landlady at a B&B that the Irish government taxes citizens 40 Euros/year for each credit card they hold.

Geoff



At 05:01 PM 10/8/2003 -0700, Grow, Bob wrote:

When I saw this I though fantastic, an alternative to a mariachi band.  The seemingly obligatory mariachi band in Albuquerque is for me almost as bad as the hotel room challenges.


 
As long as I am dumping on meeting locations, please note the following relevant to March/Florida, how about an 802 led boycott of Florida?



 
By Jeff Caruso
Network World High Speed LANs Newsletter, 09/02/03
The state of Florida is mulling a rule that could result in taxation of computer networks - both WAN and LAN.
The rule is taking businesses by surprise, according to a story in the Orlando Business Journal:
http://orlando.bizjournals.com/orlando/stories/2003/08/25/story1.html

The article says the state would tax networks 9.17%, and local districts could add their own tax to it. What exactly would be taxed? Either the lease payments or annual depreciation of network equipment, according to the article.

<snip>

--Bob Grow



 
 


 
-----Original Message-----
From: Rigsbee, Everett O [mailto:everett.o.rigsbee@boeing.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 4:32 PM
To: Geoff Thompson
Cc: Grow, Bob; scarlson@hspdesign.com; rbrand@nortelnetworks.com; dawns@facetoface-events.com; p.nikolich@ieee.org; 802 Exec
Subject: RE: Music at the Albuquerque Social
 
Geoff,  Does this mean we need to find a WiFi guitar to present a balanced program ???     :-)  
 
Anyone for WiFi mariachi's ???
 


 
Thanx,  Buzz
Dr. Everett O. (Buzz) Rigsbee
Boeing - SSG
PO Box 3707, M/S: 7M-FM
Seattle, WA  98124-2207
(425) 865-2443    Fx: (425) 865-6721
everett.o.rigsbee@boeing.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Geoff Thompson [mailto:gthompso@nortelnetworks.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 4:20 PM
To: sarora@gibson.com
Cc: gthompso@nortelnetworks.com; bob.grow@intel.com; scarlson@hspdesign.com; rbrand@nortelnetworks.com; dawns@facetoface-events.com; Rigsbee, Everett O; p.nikolich@ieee.org
Subject: Music at the Albuquerque Social
Shri-

Enjoyed talking at lunch today.

Thanks a lot for your offer to provide live music and a demo of the Gibson Ethernet Guitar at the 802 Social. 
The folks to actually discuss the offer with are the meeting and therefore the Social planners who are:
Dawn C. Slykhouse, IEEE 802 Conference Organizer
Email: dawns@facetoface-events.com
Face To Face Events, Inc.
2699 Iversen Court
Santa Clara, CA. 95051
Tel: 408/241-8906
Fax: 408/241-8918
Dr. Everett O. (Buzz) Rigsbee
Executive Secretary, IEEE 802
C/o Boeing - SSG
PO Box 3707, M/S: 7M-FM
Seattle, WA  98124-2207
(425) 865-2443    Fx: (425) 865-6721
everett.o.rigsbee@boeing.com





Dawn is the professional meeting planner who actually runs the plenaries. She is local.
Buzz is the Executive secretary of IEEE 802 and overseeing meeting arrangements is his job.

I'm not just sure how they divide up duties on planning for the entertainment at the social, but I suggest that you call Dawn as a first point of contact.

I hope to see you again soon,

Best regards,

Geoff
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