RE: [802SEC] Re: Wireless LCD Projectors for use at July plenary at HR-SF

[Geoff Thompson <gthompso@nortelnetworks.com>]

Mat-

I don't think I agree with you. I am more in Howard's camp. We have more 
than enough to do in most of 802 meetings that I sit in without doing 
on-line debugging of tools.

On the other hand, if someone has experience within their own organization 
using such a tool and can bring it in ready to use, then let's go for it.

Geoff


At 05:19 PM 7/1/2003 -0400, mjsherman@research.att.com wrote:

>Hi everyone,
>
>So I'll add one more opinion to the pile.  I think it is important that
>we try new things and see how they work, especially if they are our own
>technologies.  If we won't buy it, who will?
>
>I can see value for a projector with a wireless interface - where a guy
>in the back of the room can quickly display their objection on the
>screen, or where you might even be able to briefly split the screen
>between two inputs for comparison.  But frankly, I am perplexed by the
>software and control issues - another reason why I want to try it so I
>can see first hand if it works or not.
>
>Another area of personal concern for me is whether the RF environment in
>our meetings can hack it.  I'm already not very happy with the
>performance we get out of our current WLAN without a video load.
>802.11e (QoS) is not out yet.  So, I can't wait to see what happens when
>we add a video load in with our existing loads.  Will the WLAN be able
>to handle the load?  Will other traffic in the area impact the quality
>of the video on the projector?
>
>I view IEEE 802 not just as a standards development organization, but a
>as a potential test bed for our own technologies.  Actually, I wish we
>did more testing and evaluation of the network we run here.  The one
>thing I will caution is I'm not sure myself if an investment in the
>projector will be worth while, so don't buy more than one.  I think it
>is worth buying one though just to find out if it is worth while.
>
>Mat
>
>Matthew Sherman
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: Howard Frazier [mailto:millardo@dominetsystems.com]
>Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 2:08 PM
>To: Rigsbee, Everett O
>Cc: billq@attglobal.net; 802 @F2F Dawn S; darcel@facetoface-events.com;
>802 @F2F Jennifer Hull; 802 Bob Heile; Bob O'Hara; Paul Nikolich
>(E-mail); 802 Roger B. Marks; 802 Stuart J. Kerry; Tim Godfrey; 802. 11
>Al Petrick (802-11 Al Petrick); Don Berry; 802 Exec; stuart@ok-brit.com
>Subject: [802SEC] Re: Wireless LCD Projectors for use at July plenary at
>HR-SF
>
>
>
>Personally, I would not pay extra $ for a projector
>with a wireless interface.  Based on bitter experience,
>I never add software or hardware to my laptop while I
>am traveling, so I loathe the idea of having to add
>some new driver for this interface.
>
>The time required to connect a cable to a projector
>is minimal.  Time is occasionally wasted when a
>presenter can't figure out how to toggle between
>their laptop's LCD and the external monitor interface,
>or when this simple action produces a "Microsoft Moment".
>I can't see where adding a couple of layers of complexity
>will improve the situation.  For large, busy groups that
>need to save time, the best technique is to load all
>of the presentation materials onto one laptop, thus
>avoiding the need to switch connections.
>
>In the five years that we have been buying projectors,
>I have learned that "bells and whistles" like cameras
>are pretty much useless. I would put a wireless interface
>into the same category. It's just one more thing that
>can break, requiring a potentially costly repair, and
>taking a projector out of service.
>
>Let's please stick with simple, durable, bright,
>high-resolution DLP projectors with minimal bells and whistles.
>
>Howard (Yes, I'm a Luddite, and proud of it) Frazier
>
>Rigsbee, Everett O wrote:
>
> > FYI-  I just happened to stumble across the Epson 735c Wireless LCD
>Projector (see attached specification sheet) and thought this might just
>be the thing for our future meetings, but wondered if anyone has had any
>experience with this unit, and has opinions on its suitability for use
>at IEEE 802 plenaries and interims.
> >
> > It seems to be price competitive with the regular wired units, and
>might allow a lot more flexibility in sharing an LCD projector amongst
>several presenters.
> >
> > Input and opinions on this notion are encouraged.
> >
> > I'm working on seeing if we can get a couple of these units to use in
>SF for evaluation purposes.  Any support for this from our Epson folks
>would be seriously appreciated.   :-)
> >
> > Thanx,  Buzz
> > Dr. Everett O. (Buzz) Rigsbee
> > Boeing - SSG
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> > everett.o.rigsbee@boeing.com
> >
> >
> >
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