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Vote =
NO.
There
are substantive procedural lapses in the ballot
process which form the basis of my
vote. I can't though help but describe some frustrations with the available documentation that increased the time
required to review the ballot information
and either introduce
contradictions and or confusion about the
ballot.
It was very difficult to figure out which 802.11g
drafts were balloted at sponsor ballot. (I would give URLs if the web site
provided them, but the pull down menus do not update the URL so good luck in
trying to replicate my descriptions.) From the pull down menu Group
Updates / Task Groups / G, it appears that the initial sponsor ballot was on
D6.2, the first recirculation ballot on D7.1, and the second recirculation
ballot on D8.1, yet the ballot results (Group Updates / Ballot Results / Sponsor
Ballots) list the second recirculation ballot on D8.2 as described in the
ballot material.
Second
frustration. What is with all the comment spreadsheets on the 802.11 web
site. With limited time, I had to assume that the one with the latest date
was the final comment report for the specific ballot.
Of
substantive concern:
1. From the second page referenced above, it
appears that the first recirculation ballot though listed as 15 days was
only 14 complete days (14.xxx days) in violation of LMSC sponsor ballot
periods.
2. After reviewing the comment database provided
with the motion, I am concerned about the Gilb8 comment on line 20 of the
comment summary. From the database, I am assuming that the comment
was:
a. Originally submitted on the initial D6.2
sponsor ballot (the Gilb23 reference).
b. Resubmitted on the second sponsor
recirculation ballot (D8.2) as a technical comment.
c. That the BRC on the second sponsor
recirculation ballot reclassified the comment as editorial.
While
I find the willingness of the committee to perpetuate ambiguity in the
specification with the continued use of both underscore and hyphen
in primitive names disappointing, it is the procedural aspects that are the
purview of the SEC. It is appropriate in the comment response for the BRC
to respond that the issue is really editorial, it isn't the BRC's option to
reclassify a comment that was the basis for a negative vote as being an
editorial issue and therefore non-binding.
3. I couldn't find answers to some questions
related to this comment:
a. Why is there no Gilb 23 in the D6.2 comment
database? (The comment database in the motion package indicates it was a
"first sponsor ballot" comment.) I can't evaluate if the comment was the
same as Gilb23 if I can't find it!)
b. Did the
commenter explicitly accept the reclassification of the second recirculation
comment (Gilb8)?
4. Some comments in the motion package provided
are resolved as "Counter" with recommended
changes to the document. (Moreton 18, and 19). Though I am unfamiliar
with the term Counter (and I couldn't find it defined on the 802.11 web site),
it looks like what 802.3 names "Accept in Principle" where the commenter has
raised a valid problem but a different remedy is implemented than that
recommended by the commenter. (This might be transferable to the
frustration section but it is impossible to determine on which ballot these
comments were entered.)
--Bob
Grow
-----Original Message----- Dear SEC members, From: Paul Nikolich [mailto:paul.nikolich@att.net] Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2003 6:32 PM To: IEEE802 Subject: [802SEC] +++SEC MOTION+++ Motion: Authorize Forwarding of the 802.11g draft to RevCom This is a 15 day SEC email ballot to make a determination by an SEC motion to authorize forwarding 802.11g Draft 8.2 to RevCom. Moved by Stuart J. Kerry Seconded by Bob Heile The email ballot opens on Wednesday May 21st, 2003 10PM ET and closes Thursday June 5th, 2003 10PM ET. Please direct your responses to the SEC reflector with a CC directly to me (p.nikolich@ieee.org). Regards, - Paul Nikolich SUPPORTING INFORMATION / DOCUMENTATION Below: +++++++++ LAST SPONSOR BALLOT RESULTS: Ballot: P802.11g/D8.2 2nd IEEE Recirculation Ballot which Closed 2003-05-14, and obtained a 95% approval. This ballot has met the 75% returned ballot requirement. 96 eligible people in this ballot group. 64 affirmative votes 3 negative votes with comments 0 negative votes without comments 10 abstention votes ===== 77 votes received = 80% returned 12% abstention The 75% affirmation requirement is being met. 64 affirmative votes 3 negative votes with comments ===== 67 votes = 95% affirmative +++++++++ RESULTS OF TASK GROUP G AND 802.11 WG MOTIONS at DALLAS 802.11 session (May 2003): Move to Forward IEEE 802.11g Draft 8.2 to the IEEE 802 SEC and to RevCom for Final Approval Task Group G: 26 / 0 / 0 802.11 WG: 102 / 0 / 2 +++++++++ SUMMARY OF REMAINING VOTERS ISSUES: Attached is a summary of status of the three "no" voters (O'Farrell, Moreton, Gilb) and the one new "yes" with comments voter (Monteban). Tim O'Farrell, Supergold Tim voted NO on the first Sponsor Ballot, i.e. Draft 6.1 of IEEE 802.11g. We have not been able to contact him sense. E-mails were sent on both recirculation ballots requesting his response. At the April 2003 session of 802.11g, multiple attempts were made to contact Tim to no avail. On the first recirculation ballot, Tim provided five comments. One comments was editorial, and it was accepted. The other four comments were technical. Tim had two comments related to removing optional functionality, which were both rejected. Tim also had two comments related to ACR which were both rejected. - Summary for Tim O'Farrell o Voted "No" on first sponsor ballot o Has not voted on last of the recirculation ballots o Attempts at contact have failed Mike Moreton, Synad Mike voted NO WITH COMMENTS on Draft 8.2. All of Mike comments were editorial. Mike currently maintains his NO vote based on previously circulated comments. - Summary for Mike Moreton o Voted "No" on Draft 8.2 based on previously submitted technical comments o Submitted no new technical comments on Draft 8.2 o Submitted 7 editorial comments o All editorial comments were rejected James Gilb, Appairent James also voted NO WITH COMMENTS on Draft 8.2. All of James comments have previously been circulated. James maintains his NO vote base on previously circulated comments. - Summary for James Gilb o Voted "No" on Draft 8.2 o Submitted 14 technical and editorial comments on Draft 8.2 o None of the technical comments are new o All comments were rejected Leo Monteban, Agere Leo voted YES WITH COMMENTS on Draft 8.2. Leo submitted two editorial comments. Both editorial comments were found to be non-substantive by IEEE 802.11 Task Group G, thus both were rejected. - Summary for Leo Monteban o Cast a "Yes" vote with two comments o Both comments were editorial o Both comments were rejected +++++++++ All Comment Resolutions are included in Doc#: 11-03-381 rev.7 as posted to the 802.11 web site, which contains all the comments from the recirculation of Draft 8.2. . A copy of which is attached for you convenience. The document also contains Tim O'Farrell's comment from the first sponsor ballot and Mike Moreton's and James Gilb's comments from the first ballot. As there were no new no votes or comments and no subsequent change was made to the 802.11g Draft 8.2, this ballot is concluded and D8.2 and supporting documentation will be forwarded to RevCom for action at the upcoming meeting in June. / Stuart _______________________________ Stuart J. Kerry Chair, IEEE 802.11 WLANs WG Philips Semiconductors, Inc. 1109 McKay Drive, M/S 48A SJ, San Jose, CA 95131-1706, United States of America. Ph : +1 (408) 474-7356 Fax: +1 (408) 474-7247 Cell: +1 (408) 348-3171 eMail: stuart.kerry@philips.com _______________________________ |