RE: [802SEC] IMPORTANT NOTE: IEEE 802 Meeting room audio visual update
Buzz-
All of the discussion is lovely but...
I do not see an answer to Bob's question.
That is, where is this guideline published?
If it is document that is not well known to those who are conducting WG
meetings and agreed to by them, then my position is that it is not an
operative document.
Geoff
At 02:00 PM 11/4/2002 -0800, Rigsbee, Everett O wrote:
Bob,
This has been the guideline number which we have been operating under for
the last 8-10 years that I can remember. I think it is time that we
set an official policy for what is an appropriate level of AV service for
today s style of meeting, that can be projected in the budget and covered
in our conference guidelines, so that we are not in a constant state of
being over budget on AV services. It is unfair that some WG s
continue to work within the guideline, while others request 2, 3, and
sometimes 4 microphones for a single meeting. If we establish a
guideline for what we believe is appropriate then everyone will have an
equal right to that level of service and those costs can be projected in
the budget. In the absence of an updated guideline, the old policy
will continue to haunt us in the future. There is a large cost
differential between 1 microphone and 2 because of the need to add a
mixer, and an even larger cost differential to have a wireless microphone
or lavaliere. It has been suggested that we might be better off
purchasing several wireless microphone set-ups for our own use in those
meetings where floor mics or circulating mics would be the preferred
solution. Clearly there are several options that need to be
explored and perhaps an SEC subcommittee is the right place to consider
these and draft a new guideline policy.
Thanx,
Buzz
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-----Original Message-----
From: Grow, Bob
[mailto:bob.grow@intel.com]
Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 12:48 PM
To: dawns@facetoface-events.com; IEEE 802 SEC
Cc: Darcel Moro; Jennifer Hull; Howard Frazier
Subject: RE: [802SEC] IMPORTANT NOTE: IEEE 802 Meeting room audio
visual update
When 802.3 requests a floor
microphone, it is important to productive conduct of business. This
is especially true at closing meetings (802.3ah, 802.3 where motions
involve significant comment from participants. I would assume not
having the microphone extends an active closing 802.3 plenary by 0:30, so
200 people @ $50/hr. (very conservative) is a productivity loss of
$5000.
I obviously have a problem with
this arbitrary decision, and am curious as to where this referenced 802
guideline is published.
--Bob Grow
-----Original Message-----
From: Dawn Slykhouse
[mailto:dawns@facetoface-events.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 7:18 PM
To: IEEE 802 SEC
Cc: Darcel Moro; Jennifer Hull; Howard Frazier
Subject: [802SEC] IMPORTANT NOTE: IEEE 802 Meeting room audio
visual update
Importance: High
IMPORTANT
NOTE:
Memo
to: IEEE 802 Working Group Chairs
From: Face To Face Events Inc.
Re: Microphones
Please note podiums with microphones have been
requested for only the meetings which have specified podiums. We
have requested long cords on all the microphones. As noted in the
802 guidelines, and confirmed by Buzz Rigsbee, all there is one
microphone allowed per meeting with 50 or more attendees. If you
have requested more than one microphone please be aware there will only
be one microphone in your meeting room and it will be located at the
front of the room. Any comments or concerns should be directed to
Buzz.
Darcel Moro
IEEE 802 Meeting Manager
Face To Face Events Inc.
Tel: 604/944-2652
Fax: 604/944-2012