RE: [802SEC] 802 Plenary registration fees
Let's go for 300/350. I would rather go down later rather than just keep
upping it. As Carl points out this is what we have been charging at the
wireless interims (exclusive of 16) so half of the 802 population is
already used to it.
At 08:12 PM 10/8/02 -0400, Stevenson, Carl R (Carl) wrote:
>Bill, Buzz, et al,
>
>In my view, better safe than sorry ... I would be
>inclined to support Buzz's view that it would be
>better to jump to $300/$350 and back off later if
>we determine that's feasible.
>
>I would also observe that .11/.15/.18/.19 interims
>have been, to my recollection, running $300/$350
>(and occasionally a bit more, depending on venue,
>if my memory serves me correctly) ... thus, going
>to $300/$350 for plenaries doesn't seem out of line
>to me.
>
>I think the last thing we should do is risk financial
>insolvency.
>
>Carl
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Bill Quackenbush [mailto:billq@attglobal.net]
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 7:49 PM
> > To: Rigsbee, Everett O
> > Cc: IEEE 802 SEC
> > Subject: Re: [802SEC] 802 Plenary registration fees
> >
> >
> >
> > Buzz,
> >
> > We currently have an adequate reserve to cover the primary
> > meeting hotel
> > cancellation penalties, but we will be losing on average ~$20k per
> > meeting in 2003 if we continue the $250/$300 registration fee
> > structure.
> >
> > How much additional reserve we need to cover the worst case secondary
> > hotel cancellation penalties is yet to be determined. That in my mind
> > will determine whether the increase should be to $275/$325 or
> > $300/$350.
> >
> > That said, other opinions are welcome and invited.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > wlq
> >
> > "Rigsbee, Everett O" wrote:
> > >
> > > Bill, I suggest we just go for the $300/$350 to ensure we
> > get to the safe
> > > level soon, and then if we are seeing an ongoing revenue
> > surplus at that
> > > point we can back it off to match our actual run rate. We
> > have not raised
> > > the meeting fees in over 4 years, and our fees are low
> > relative to other
> > > groups such as IETF.
> > >
> > > Thanx, Buzz
> > > Dr. Everett O. (Buzz) Rigsbee
> > > Boeing - SSG
> > > PO Box 3707, M/S: 7M-FM
> > > Seattle, WA 98324-2207
> > > (425) 865-2443 Fx: (425) 865-6721
> > > everett.o.rigsbee@boeing.com
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Bill Quackenbush [mailto:billq@attglobal.net]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 4:17 PM
> > > To: IEEE 802 SEC
> > > Subject: [802SEC] 802 Plenary registration fees
> > >
> > > Members of the SEC,
> > >
> > > As I indicated in the Treasurer's report at the closing SEC
> > meeting in
> > > July, we need to increase the Plenary meeting registration
> > fees in order
> > > to maintain a reserve adequate to cover the worst case meeting
> > > cancellation penalties. This criteria requires that 802 maintain a
> > > reserve of at least $125k to cover the worst case primary
> > hotel contract
> > > cancellation penalty. To achieve this, the Plenary meeting
> > fee must be
> > > raised to at least $275/$325 beginning with the March, 2003 Plenary
> > > meeting. I have not yet reviewed the secondary hotel contracts.
> > > Depending on the penalties in these contracts, the increase
> > may need to
> > > be greater.
> > >
> > > The budget through 2003 assuming $275/$325 registration
> > fees is attached.
> > >
> > > While it appears that the Treasurer does not need approval
> > to set the
> > > Plenary meeting fees (Section 2 of the LMSC Operating
> > Rules), I request
> > > your support for an increase in the Plenary registration
> > fee of at least
> > > $25, but no more than $50 beginning with the March, 2003
> > Plenary meeting.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > wlq
> >
Bob Heile, Ph.D
Chair, IEEE 802.15 Working Group on Wireless Personal Area Networks
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