Re: [802SEC] let's sell the approved 802.16 draft
Angela,
Thanks for your note last week. I appreciate you looking into this
and trying to get it fixed by today. However, the web site still says
"Product No Longer Available", and I continue to field complaints
from people who can't buy it.
I don't really understand the position "an approved draft supersedes
an older version". If a draft is approved, then it IS the most recent
version, and will remain so until publication.
Thanks for trying to solve the problem in this case. I hope it can be
solved more generally.
Roger
>Hello Roger:
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>"Can you look into this and tell me why the draft is longer available? Is
>it a policy to remove drafts from the catalog once approved?"
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>A/ It is more a procedure than a policy, since an approved draft supersedes
>an older version.
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>Linda and Markus are checking into the matter. It should show up on
>Monday.
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>Have a good weekend.
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>Angela O.
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>Angela Ortiz
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> "Roger B. Marks"
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> o.ieee.org Subject:
>[802SEC] let's sell the approved
> 802.16 draft
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>Angela,
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>Following the approval of 802.16, IEEE-SA put a press release both at the
>top of its own site and on Business Wire <
>http://www.businesswire.com/cgi-bin/f_headline.cgi?bw.120701/213412218>.
>The release has been picked up widely and is now repeated on many web
>sites.
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>In order to help sell the draft, the press release includes the URL to the
>802.16 publication list <http://WirelessMAN.org/published.html>.
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>Unfortunately, this won't help to sell drafts, because the URLs to the
>product (both PDF and softcover) now both return the message "Product No
>Longer Available."
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>I have searched the IEEE Catalog in many different ways but have found no
>sign of the draft.
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>Can you look into this and tell me why the draft is longer available? Is it
>a policy to remove drafts from the catalog once approved? If so, I would
>recommend a different policy. I request that, since we have advertised the
>product widely, we put it back in the catalog.
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>Regards,
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>Roger
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> Karen,
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> Thanks for getting the IEEE 802.16 press release onto the IEEE-SA
> front page:
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> http://standards.ieee.org/announcements/80216app.html
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> While I knew that IEEE had trademarked "WirelessMAN", I was surprised
> to find the trademark symbol attached to "802.16" (in 12 places). I'd
> like to better understand exactly what the trademark covers. I'm a
> little confused by the press release's statement that "IEEE Std
> 802.16, WirelessMAN is a trademark of the IEEE." Exactly what term is
> trademarked?
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> [By the way, I didn't find "802.16" on the USPTO site <
> http://tess.uspto.gov>. (I did, however, find "802" registered to IEEE
> for "pamphlets of standards and specifications for local and
> metropolitan area networks", to Wayne Gretzky for hockey equipment,
> and to the Bose Corporation for loudspeakers).]
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> I would like to voice an objection to one particular use of the
> trademark symbol in the press release: the reference to our
> previously-published standard as "IEEE Standard 802.16?.2". I request
> that you reconsider this use of the trademark symbol inside a standard
> number. I hope that, if you agree with me, you will correct the
> version on the web.
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> Thanks for all your help in getting the press release out.
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> Roger