RE: SEC reflector membership
I don't think it is you that is confused Buzz...and I agree, having the
link more visible seems like the right thing to do.
Regards,
Tony
At 00:47 25/10/00 -0700, Rigsbee, Everett O wrote:
>OK, Now I'm confused. What does having a link to the SEC archive on our
>Home Page have to do with the amount of traffic on the SEC
>reflector. Just because you can find the archive and read it, doesn't
>mean you can send email to the list.
>Thanx, Buzz
>Everett O. (Buzz) Rigsbee
>Boeing SSG
>PO Box 3707, M/S: 7M-FM
>Seattle, WA 98124-2207
>ph: (425) 865-2443, fx: (425) 865-6721
>email: everett.o.rigsbee@boeing.com
> > ----------
> > From: Howard Frazier[SMTP:millardo@dominetsystems.com]
> > Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2000 1:34 AM
> > To: Rigsbee, Everett O
> > Cc: 802 Geoff Thompson; stds-802-sec@ieee.org
> > Subject: Re: SEC reflector membership
> >
> > That all depends on how much additional traffic you'd like to see on
> the sec reflector.
> > Howard
> > "Rigsbee, Everett O" wrote:
> > > OK, so in keeping with our "Policy of Openness" shouldn't we put the
> link
> > > directly on our Home Page with an appropriate title so folks can find
> it ???
> > > Thanx, Buzz
> > > Everett O. (Buzz) Rigsbee
> > > Boeing SSG
> > > PO Box 3707, M/S: 7M-FM
> > > Seattle, WA 98124-2207
> > > ph: (425) 865-2443, fx: (425) 865-6721
> > > email: everett.o.rigsbee@boeing.com
> > > > ----------
> > > > From: Howard Frazier[SMTP:millardo@dominetsystems.com]
> > > > Sent: Friday, November 24, 2000 10:02 PM
> > > > To: Geoff Thompson
> > > > Cc: 802 SEC; tak
> > > > Subject: Re: SEC reflector membership
> > > > The sec email archive is available at:
> > > > http://www.ieee802.org/secmail/
> > > > I'll be the first to admit that it isn't easy to find. The link to
> it from the
> > > > home page is through the "operating rules and other documents page".
> > > > Howard
> > > > Geoff Thompson wrote:
> > > > > Bob-
> > > > > Mike should certainly be on the SEC reflector. He IS a member of
> the Exec,
> > > > > it is just that he is a non-voting member until he makes it out of SG
> > > > > status. If he was not put on the reflector then it was due to either
> > > > > misunderstanding or an oversight.
> > > > > My view as to the "openness of the SEC reflector is as follows:
> > > > > 1) The reflector should NOT be open to anyone who wishes to
> > > > > subscribe. This is the same as the essence of the meetings of the
> Exec in
> > > > > that the peanut gallery does not have the right to speak
> (although they are
> > > > > often granted the courtesy)
> > > > > 2) The Exec reflector message traffic should have a
> thread archive
> > > > > that is easily accessible from the 802 Home Page. I thought that
> we had
> > > > > done this but I can't find anything. This will provide the
> openness and
> > > > > visibility that we should have for all of our meetings. It will also
> > > > > provide any observer with mail access to either side of any
> discussion that
> > > > > is taking place.
> > > > > I would ask that Paul take action to clarify each of these 3
> items and to
> > > > > modify our procedures, web page and rules accordingly.
> > > > > Geoff
> > > > > At 07:50 AM 10/23/00 -0400, you wrote:
> > > > > >Mike, you bring up a good question - Do you have the right to be
> on the SEC
> > > > > >reflector as an SEC sponsored study group.
> > > > > >While you certainly don't get to vote on the various issues that
> come up, it
> > > > > >appears reasonable to me that since the SEC reflector is also
> used to
> > > > > >circulate various housekeeping messages such as what size
> meeting room and
> > > > > >equipment will you need at the next meeting, that all SEC
> appointed or
> > > > > >approved Study Group Chairs should be immediately placed on the
> SEC reflector.
> > > > > >Paul, do you agree? Do we need to take any kind of SEC
> affirmative action
> > > > > >to make this happen (such as approving a motion) or can we
> simply institute
> > > > > >this as a policy?
> > > > > >Are there any other opinions out there about adding SEC
> appointed/approved
> > > > > >Study Group Chairs to the SEC reflector?
> > > > > >Is there any reason that we should need to put this on the
> Monday morning>
> > > > > >agenda? I, for one, would think we could implement this
> suggestion without
> > > > > >motions or discussion, assuming there are no significantly
> contrary opinions
> > > > > >voiced on this reflector.
> > > > > >Best regards,
> > > > > >Robert D. Love
> > > > > >President, LAN Connect Consultants
> > > > > >7105 Leveret Circle Raleigh, NC 27615
> > > > > >Phone: 919 848-6773 Mobile: 919 810-7816
> > > > > >email: rdlove@ieee.org Fax: 720 222-0900
> > > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > > >From: Mike Takefman <tak@cisco.com>
> > > > > >To: RDLove <rdlove@nc.rr.com>
> > > > > >Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2000 8:39 PM
> > > > > >Subject: Re: Fw: COOKIES, oops no I mean NETWORKING for upcoming
> IEEE 802 meeting
> > > > > > > No, I assumed that I would get to join once I was a
> > > > > > > working group chair. Do I actually get the right
> > > > > > > to be on now?
> > > > > > > thanks for the heads up.
> > > > > > > mike
> > > > > > > RDLove wrote:
> > > > > > > > Mike, are you on the 802SEC reflector?
> > > > > > > > I don't expect that our group needs any networking
> services, but I thought>
> > > > > > > > you should know.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Best regards,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Robert D. Love
> > > > > > > > President, LAN Connect Consultants
> > > > > > > > 7105 Leveret Circle Raleigh, NC 27615
> > > > > > > > Phone: 919 848-6773 Mobile: 919 810-7816
> > > > > > > > email: rdlove@ieee.org Fax: 720 222-0900
> > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > From: Paul Nikolich <p.nikolich@ieee.org>
> > > > > > > > To: <stds-802-sec@majordomo.ieee.org>
> > > > > > > > Cc: <donbe@microsoft.com>
> > > > > > > > Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2000 1:59 PM
> > > > > > > > Subject: COOKIES, oops no I mean NETWORKING for upcoming
> IEEE 802
> > > > > >meeting
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Dear SEC,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I have seen more debate/discussion on cookies than on
> provisioning
> > > > > > > > > networking services to our attendees for the upcoming
> > > > > >meeting...amazing!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > For those chairs that are interesting in providing
> network access to
> > > > > >their
> > > > > > > > > members, Don Berry of Microsoft is setting up network
> services at the
> > > > > > > > > upcoming meeting. If your group has specific
> requirements, please
> > > > > >foward
> > > > > > > > > them to Don so that he can factor them into his plans for
> the meeting.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --Paul
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >From: Don Berry <donbe@microsoft.com>
> > > > > > > > > >To: "'Paul Nikolich'" <p.nikolich@ieee.org>,
> > > > > >dawns@facetoface-events.com
> > > > > > > > > >Subject: RE: networking for upcoming IEEE 802 meeting
> > > > > > > > > >Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 14:37:42 -0700
> > > > > > > > > >X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2651.58)
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >Paul, Dawn suggested that you poll the rest of the EXCOM
> to see if
> > > > > >their
> > > > > > > > > >groups have any requirements that I need to know about.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >Thanks!
> > > > > > > > > >Don
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > >From: Paul Nikolich [mailto:p.nikolich@ieee.org]
> > > > > > > > > >Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 2:03 PM
> > > > > > > > > >To: Don Berry; dawns@facetoface-events.com
> > > > > > > > > >Subject: networking for upcoming IEEE 802 meeting
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >Don, Dawn,
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >This is to introduce you--Dawn, Don is responsible for
> setting up the
> > > > > > > > > >network for the upcoming plenary.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >Don, Dawn is responsible for setting up all the meeting
> arrangements.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >When you get a chance you should sync up on the network
> planning for
> > > > > >the
> > > > > > > > > >meeting.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >Thanks,
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >--Paul
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > >
> >