RE: IEEE 802 Rules Change Ballot--Elimination of Friday Plenary Meeting
I agree that Friday should be available for WG or TF meetings just Sunday
and Monday have been used in the past. I know I have attended 802.3 Task
Force meetings prior to the opening plenary in the past. Friday will also
be a convienient date for non-802 groups with related interests. Buzz, I
expect these irregular (both 802 and non-802) activites will add to our room
night count, but I also recognize the impossibility of counting on those
room nights. (For example, the 10 Gigabit Ethernet Alliance has set a
member meeting for Friday in La Jolla to allow participants to trade an
additional hotel night for a trip.)
--Bob Grow
-----Original Message-----
From: Rigsbee, Everett O [mailto:Everett.Rigsbee@PSS.Boeing.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2000 9:43 AM
To: 'rdlove@us.ibm.com'; stds-802-sec@ieee.org
Subject: RE: IEEE 802 Rules Change Ballot--Elimination of Friday Plenary
Meeting
I have one expression of WG interest in Friday meeting time. Unfortunately,
802.5 is
currently small and due to go into hibernation soon. Any other WG interest
in this as a
way to get more face-to-face meeting time (Dawn will love the plug, Bob! :))
???
Or do we need to wait and explore this concept at La Jolla before making any
decisions ???
Thanx, Buzz
Dr. Everett O. (Buzz) Rigsbee
Boeing SSG
PO Box 3707, M/S: 7M-FM
Seattle, WA 98124
ph: (425) 865-2443
fax: (425) 865-6721
email: everett.o.rigsbee@boeing.com
-----Original Message-----
From: rdlove@us.ibm.com [mailto:rdlove@us.ibm.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2000 6:27 AM
To: stds-802-sec@ieee.org
Subject: RE: IEEE 802 Rules Change Ballot--Elimination of Friday Plenary
Meeting
Buzz, I believe that for any large groups with active projects face-to-face
meeting time is always in critically short supply. Even if Friday is
treated like a single "interim" meeting day, i.e. not counted toward
meeting attendance requirements, it would be very valuable to hold such
meetings. I know that 802.5 used them beneficially on a number of
occasions to help move the work forward.
Best regards.
Robert D. Love
Program Manager, IBM ACS - US
Chair IEEE 802.5 Token Ring Working Group
IBM
500 Park Offices Phone: 919 543-2746
P. O. Box 12195 CNPA/656 Fax: 419 715-0359
Research Triangle Park, NC 27709, USA E-Mail: rdlove@us.ibm.com
"Rigsbee, Everett O" <Everett.Rigsbee@PSS.Boeing.com>@ieee.org on
04/26/2000 03:25:13 PM
Sent by: owner-stds-802-sec@ieee.org
To: Paul Nikolich <p.nikolich@ieee.org>, Tony Jeffree
<tony@jeffree.co.uk>, 802 Dave Carlson <dcarlson@netlabs.net>
cc: stds-802-sec@majordomo.ieee.org
Subject: RE: IEEE 802 Rules Change Ballot--Elimination of Friday Plenary
Meeting
Dave, Unfortunately, I don't think that is the plan at least as it has
been discussed so far. The proposal was that the WG's still complete
their work by Thursday afternoon but that the SEC meeting gets moved
to Friday AM so that SEC members have more time to prepare for
the meeting. Whether some WGs might want to schedule
additional working sessions for Thursday PM or Friday that would
retain the room block has not been discussed (at least not with me!).
So I'll pose the question: Does anyone see merit in this suggestion ???.
Thanx, Buzz
Everett O. (Buzz) Rigsbee
Boeing SSG
PO Box 3707, M/S: 7M-FM
Seattle, WA 98124-2207
ph: (425) 865-2443, fx: (425) 865-6721
email: everett.o.rigsbee@boeing.com
> ----------
> From: David Carlson[SMTP:dcarlson@netlabs.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2000 10:38 AM
> To: Rigsbee, Everett O; Paul Nikolich; Tony Jeffree
> Cc: stds-802-sec@majordomo.ieee.org
> Subject: Re: IEEE 802 Rules Change Ballot--Elimination of Friday
Plenary Meeting
> Buzz et al,
> With the elimination of the Closing Plenary, the WGs can then meet thru
> Friday instead of just thru Thursday, as was the case when a Closing
Plenary
> was in vogue. This would satisfy your concern about room blocks, right?
> Dave
> From: Rigsbee, Everett O <Everett.Rigsbee@PSS.Boeing.com>
> To: Paul Nikolich <p.nikolich@ieee.org>; Tony Jeffree
<tony@jeffree.co.uk>
> Cc: stds-802-sec@majordomo.ieee.org <stds-802-sec@majordomo.ieee.org>
> Date: Wednesday, April 26, 2000 12:50 PM
> Subject: RE: IEEE 802 Rules Change Ballot--Elimination of Friday Plenary
Meeting
> >Tony & other SEC members:
> >Where I certainly support the move to eliminate the Friday Closing
> >Plenary, I'm holding off on sending out the notification until I've had
> >a chance to make sure that resulting room block adjustment is acceptable
> >to our contracted venues and will not cause us to incur stiff penalties
> >for undershoot. So far we look OK, but you really need to get an
official
> >OK from each property. If we hit a snag short-term, I may want to
recommend
> >adjusting the effectivity date to avoid a problem. Further out we're
> >definitely OK. Sorry for the delay but I was away on a much needed
vacation
> >and am only just now getting back up to speed. I'll keep you posted on
> >the progress of negotiations and the message will go out as soon as
> >we are in the clear.
> >Thanx, Buzz
> >Everett O. (Buzz) Rigsbee
> >Boeing SSG
> >PO Box 3707, M/S: 7M-FM
> >Seattle, WA 98124-2207
> >ph: (425) 865-2443, fx: (425) 865-6721
> >email: everett.o.rigsbee@boeing.com
> >> ----------
> >> From: Tony Jeffree[SMTP:tony@jeffree.co.uk]
> >> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2000 3:43 AM
> >> To: Paul Nikolich
> >> Cc: stds-802-sec@majordomo.ieee.org
> >> Subject: Re: IEEE 802 Rules Change Ballot--Elimination of Friday
Plenary
> Meeting
> >>
> >> At 10:29 15/04/00 -0400, Paul Nikolich wrote:
> >> >Dear SEC,
> >> >Per Geoff Thompson's excellent suggestion, attached you will find
> proposed
> >> >text for the IEEE Rules change to eliminate the Friday plenary
meeting
> (Bob
> >> >Grow thanks for providing the edits) INCLUDING the strikethrough of
> removed
> >> >text attached.
> >> >The ballot opened April 14th 5pm EDT and closes June 1st 5pm EDT.
> >> >Howard, can you please place this rules change on the www.ieee802.org
> web
> >> >site in the IEEE 802 Opertating Rules and Other Documents subsection
> under
> >> >the heading "Proposed Rules Change".
> >> >Buzz, per our rules, rules change ballots are to be distributed to
all
> 802
> >> >attendees--please notify the 802 list that a rules change is pending
and
> >> >they can go to "http://www.ieee802.org/devdocs.html" and click on
> "Proposed
> >> >Rules Change" to obtain the text.
> >> Paul/Buzz - I haven't seen any notification distributed to all of 802
> yet -
> >> did I just miss it?
> >> Regards,
> >> Tony
> >>
> >
>